Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

02/07/2014 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 278 EDUCATION: FUNDING/TAX CREDITS/PROGRAMS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 245 SCHOOL FUNDING: REQ'D LOCAL CONTRIBUTION TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ HJR 1 CONST. AM: EDUCATION FUNDING TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+ HB 220 REPEAL SECONDARY SCHOOL EXIT EXAM TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
            HB 220-REPEAL SECONDARY SCHOOL EXIT EXAM                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  220,  "An Act  repealing  the secondary  student                                                               
competency  examination and  related requirements;  and providing                                                               
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS  added that  testimony  for  both  HB 220  and  the                                                               
preceding bill, HB  278, would be taken jointly; as  the topic in                                                               
both  pertains  to the  High  School  Graduation Qualifying  Exam                                                               
(HSGQE).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:48:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD moved  to adopt  the proposed  Committee                                                               
Substitute  (CS)  for  HB   220,  labeled  28-LS0947\U,  Mischel,                                                               
2/6/14.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON objected to hear the proposed changes.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:49:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS STUDLER, Staff, Representative  Pete Higgins, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, pointed  out that  the CS makes  two changes  to the                                                               
original  bill.   First,  a section  has been  added  to allow  a                                                               
sunset period for  completing the test, until  2017; secondly the                                                               
effective date has been changed from 7/1/2014, to 9/1/2014.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:49:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS  noted  that this  is  the  transitional  language,                                                               
alluded  to by  the  EED Commissioner,  Mike  Hanley, during  the                                                               
previous bill discussion on HB 278.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:49:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON removed  his objection.   Without  further                                                               
objection, Version U was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:50:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. STUDLER  said that HB  278 includes  comprehensive discussion                                                               
of school examinations, beyond the  scope of HB 220; however, two                                                               
sections are identical.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:51:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS recapped that HB 220  is titled to address the HSGQE                                                               
only, whereas HB  278 includes considerations of  other tests and                                                               
assessments,  including the  Scholastic  Achievement Test  (SAT),                                                               
American College Testing (ACT), or WorkKeys.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:51:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  expressed plans  to offer an  amendment to                                                               
remove  Sec. 6  of HB  278, effectively  removing the  three year                                                               
transitional language,  and cited that approximately  80 students                                                               
per year  might benefit  by the  legislation, at  a cost  of $1.3                                                               
million.  Alternatives to accomplish  the same end exist, such as                                                               
the availability  of the  general educational  development (GED),                                                               
he   said,  and   underscored   the  need   to  consider   fiscal                                                               
responsibility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:53:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS asserted that the test  is a state mandate for every                                                               
graduate.    She  acknowledged  the high  cost  of  offering  the                                                               
extended exam period  and pointed out that it  is also expensive,                                                               
monetarily and socially,  for anyone who doesn't  hold a diploma.                                                               
She said it is a challenge to equate the balance.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:53:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND recalled  the  discussion regarding  the                                                               
contract  that  exists  with  the   provider  of  the  test,  and                                                               
suggested  a   more  timely  elimination  may   not  be  possible                                                               
depending on the terms of agreement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:53:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  pointed  out  that  current  statute  may                                                               
already  include proviso  for re-testing,  and  the effects  will                                                               
need  to  be considered.    Additionally,  she commented  that  a                                                               
retroactive  effective  date  may  solve the  issue.    Agreement                                                               
appears to  exist that at  some point  the HSGQE ceased  to serve                                                               
its  intended  purpose,  she  observed,  and  suggested  awarding                                                               
everyone a diploma that from that established point forward.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:54:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON agreed that either  a transition period                                                               
or a  retroactive date  could be necessary  or a  legal challenge                                                               
may arise.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  stated   his  understanding   that  only                                                               
students from  the current  school year would  be a  concern, and                                                               
they  would have  notice to  accomplish any  re-testing within  a                                                               
plausible time frame; 9/1/14.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   asked  why   not  eliminate   the  HSGQE                                                               
immediately,  rather than  go through  the  complete exercise  in                                                               
May, 2014.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STUDLER said, "Good point."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:57:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE COONS  stated opposition  to HB  220 and Sec.  2 of  HB 278,                                                               
paraphrasing  from a  prepared statement,  which read  as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     I am in favor of the  vast majority of HB 278, however,                                                                    
     I  do   object  to  Section   2.    I  oppose   HB  220                                                                    
     transitional aspects.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     I propose changing Section 2 to read:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Lines 12-18 change  to read:  Sec.  14.03.075.  College                                                                    
     and career assessments.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     (a)   A  student  shall be  issued  a secondary  school                                                                    
     diploma  upon  completing  all  required  course  study                                                                    
     throughout High School with a 2.0 GPA or higher.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     (b)   A student who  fails to qualify for  the issuance                                                                    
     of a diploma under                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     (a) of  this section will  be held back so  the student                                                                    
     can  retake the  needed  courses to  meet  the 2.0  GPA                                                                    
     requirement,  upon  successful completion  the  diploma                                                                    
     will be issued.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     I  have spoken  to this  in the  exit exam  bills, both                                                                    
     House and  Senate opposing  transition and  my proposal                                                                    
     here mirrors  the proposal  for changing  transition in                                                                    
     SB 111.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     To  Rep LeDoux  and Seaton.   Administration  last week                                                                    
     testified  that last  year 700  kids did  not pass  the                                                                    
     exit exam.  If I'm  not mistaken, this was not failures                                                                    
     by handicapped.   These kids  are in the  workforce and                                                                    
     I'm sure  not having a  sheep skin is giving  them some                                                                    
     problems,  but if  they  are smart  they  will get  the                                                                    
     transcripts  of High  School  and  give to  employer's.                                                                    
     Lastly,  my  last  employer   had  nothing  asking  for                                                                    
     WorkKeys test  results, just if graduated  High School.                                                                    
     Remember,   these   young   adults  are   entry   level                                                                    
     employee's and  not seeking  jobs that  are in  need of                                                                    
     high level of knowledge,  education and experience.  If                                                                    
     I take  a WorkKeys, at  age 61  along with 42  years of                                                                    
     work  experience  that will  have  a  bigger impact  on                                                                    
     employment  over that  of a  18 year  old with  no work                                                                    
     experience and a foundation of education.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:00:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID NEES stated opposition to HB 220  and Sec. 2 of HB 278.  He                                                               
said a high school diploma is  a document that is often requested                                                               
when a  person applies for work  or enlists in the  military.  He                                                               
recalled that  the initial installation  of the test  occurred in                                                               
1998, but  with only 50 percent  of the high school  seniors able                                                               
to successfully  pass, it  was re-normed in  2002 to  the current                                                               
standard.    Reading  skills  have  gone  from  29  percent  non-                                                               
proficient to  16 percent, indicating  a good level  of progress.                                                               
However, writing  and math  continue to  be areas  where students                                                               
struggle to grasp the concepts,  as indicated by low test scores.                                                               
The  seven years  period, 2005-2012,  has  seen graduation  rates                                                               
increase by eight  percent, from 61-69, which does  not appear to                                                               
directly co-relate  to the HSGQE.   The State Board  of Education                                                               
is charged with improving academic  achievement for all students;                                                               
however;  he opined,  eliminating this  exam does  not accomplish                                                               
that goal,  rather it dilutes  the test.  He  rhetorically asked,                                                               
"Do you  really want to go  to a doctor  or a lawyer who  has not                                                               
passed their  exam?"  He  maintained that  the HSGQE is  the exam                                                               
that answers  the question, "Do  you know what  it takes to  be a                                                               
high  school  [graduate]?"   Studies,  he  noted,  indicate  that                                                               
student  assessment scores  from  fifth  grade, directly  reflect                                                               
high  school graduation  assessment scores.   Reviewing  the 2013                                                               
statistics for  the total Alaska  graduates taking the  HSGQE, he                                                               
reported that for  the last 15 years, an average  of 200 students                                                               
do not pass this test.  The  majority of the students do pass and                                                               
employers and  military recruiters understand  these percentages.                                                               
However,  the  University  of Alaska  system  indicates  that  30                                                               
percent  of continuing  education  students require  remediation;                                                               
lacking skills  in math  and writing, the  very areas  showing no                                                               
improvement across the state for the  last 15 years.  This is the                                                               
only legislation  setting an educational floor  as required under                                                               
the  Moore, et  al. v.  State of  Alaska, 3AN-04-9756  CI, (2010)                                                             
decision, unless the   Legislature sets an  education floor other                                                               
than the HSGQE.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:04:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY NANUWAK expressed support for  education in general and said                                                               
the combined federal, state, and local efforts are important.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:07:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
POSIE BOGGS questioned the state  reading assessment standards in                                                               
comparison  to the  national standards,  which appear  to require                                                               
greater  proficiency.   She expressed  concern for  state reading                                                               
levels and suggested that an  investigation of the discrepancy in                                                               
the test scores might be in order.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:08:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  closed public testimony  on HB 220,  and stipulated                                                               
that the public testimony would remain open on HB 278.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved  Conceptual Amendment 1 to  Sec. 6 as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, lines 23-29:                                                                                                       
     Delete all language.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:09:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  explained that the students  have adequate                                                               
time to retake  the test, additionally, the  provider contract is                                                               
ending.  He  said extending the contract for  an additional three                                                               
years is  an expensive  undertaking and  there is  an alternative                                                               
pathway for  students to receive  an equivalency diploma  via the                                                               
GED exam.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  for  clarity  from the  department                                                               
regarding contractual obligations.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease at 9:11 a.m.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:11:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON withdrew Conceptual Amendment 1.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:12:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced HB 220 was held over.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HJR1 - public comment.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR1 Public comment.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB278 Fiscal Note EED PEF.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 278
HB278 fiscalNote SSA.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 278
HB278 fiscalNote US SYSBRA.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 278
HB245 E-mail Testimony - Nees.docx HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 245
HJR1 Email David Nyman.docx HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR !
HB0278A Testimony with change to section 2.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 278
HJR 1 Am Fed Child support.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1 Am Fed Child support.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
HJR 1 Hume.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
HJR 1 Robbins letter.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
Testimony from League of Women Voters.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
Testimony Bethany Marcum.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
HJR1 Email David Nyman.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
Resolution-WestPTSA-opposing HJR1&SJR9.PDF HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
HJR1 Testimony - various public members part 2.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
Compilation of Public Testimonies.PDF HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
HJR1 Testimony - various public members part 2.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR1 Testimony Megan Richotte.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR 1
HJR 1 Public Testimony - various part 3.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
HJR1 E-mail testimonies - mulitple authors 2-12-14.pdf HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM
E-mail testimonies - mulitple authors.docx HEDC 2/7/2014 8:00:00 AM